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 Revelation (1999)
IMDB rating: 4.70
Plot: Thorold Stone’s family was among those who vanished three months ago, and he is still stung by that fact. Since childhood, he has always been logical and suspicious, and, of course, he’s uncertain whether Franco Macalousso is the Messiah he claims he is. Stone works for Len Parker, who runs One Nation Earth, the organization that rounds up the Haters who stand in Macalousso’s way. Soon, however, he realises that the Christians have been framed, and he has been set up. To prove Macalusso’s true colours, he must band with his own enemies – the Haters themselves, led by Helen Hannah.
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Directors: van Heerden Andre
Actors: Fahey Jeff,Nappo Tony,Mancuso Nick,Roddis David,Demas Rick,Gallagher Patrick,Gray Rothaford,McFee Bruce,White Melville,Edwards Neville,Action,Drama,Horror,Thriller,
Straight Christians: What do you think of people that are LGBT (newer version)?
I know a lot of you are against us. There are also many of you who are either neutral or for us. I’m more interested in hearing responses from the people that are against us, and I want good supporting reasons.
Last time, I said the supporting reasons had to be done WITHOUT using your bible. I’m going to allow the use of your book, but just keep this in mind while using it:
The bible has been translated, mistranslated, rewritten, added on to, had scripture removed, rearranged, and dumbed down over the years. Genesis is clearly a fable. Revelations didn’t happen, or hasn’t happened yet, so I’m not sure why it’s in the bible if it’s just a prophecy. The bible has lots of symbolism and metaphors. The ruler of Rome, Constantine, added verses that were made against homosexuals because he was homophobic and was trying to rally everyone against the Greeks whose men had sex with each other, often. He also changed the date of Christmas because December 25th fell on the same date a pagan holiday he destroyed.
I almost forgot to mention, you’re bible says something about love thy neighbor (but throw rocks at gays until they die), and something about don’t judge because you cannot judge others (unless they’re gay). The parts in parentheses weren’t actually in the bible, by the way.
One more thing, if any of you bible thumpers are up for a challenge, try this question:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index; _ylt=AqNeKoYCj2xlcUf6TdCXVevsy6IX;_ylv=3 ?qid=20100203225407AAbZVQt
By the way, the thing about Genesis… I copied one of my older answer and pasted. I forgot that the things about the first and last chapters of the bible were still in there.
Allrighty then! Ok I personally have nothing against the people themselves, but I do not approve of their actions. The Bible (which is the true word of God. Seriously, did you really expect true Christians to just suddenly think "oh yeah none of this is true." Yeah right.) says that since God created all people in his image and loves them all equally, Christians should still except them, but not encourage their ways. I’m sorry if some Christians have acted prejudiced against you. They have not been good examples of a Christian.
I can tell you are also an atheist. It’s not my place to judge, but the Bible teaches, believe it or not, that if you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you can’t enter the kingdom of Heaven. You know what the other option is. Is that what you want? Well, you probably don’t believe in Hell either i guess. Well I have hope for you. God can work miracles. Maybe someday you’ll be Christian and look back on this and say, "Wow, was that really my life?" I just don’t see how your life could have any purpose without God. Well I suppose i’ve rambled on for too long about something you probably don’t give a care about, and it’s late, so I’m going to stop now. Just so you know, I will be praying for you that God has a positive impact in your life.
btw I became a Christian when I was 6. I know people who’ve become Christians when they were in their 30’s. It’s never too early or too late. Again with the rambling… I better go
super geek | Feb 04, 2010
The whole POINT of their opposition is their religion. They, for the most part, are against homosexuality because their religion states that it is morally wrong. That’s where their definition of morality comes from. Yours obviously comes from a different (probably non-religious) place, but that doesn’t make it any more correct. More liberal, more equal, and more tolerant perhaps, but not more correct.
Ricky N | Feb 04, 2010
I think they are screwing the wrong sex.
I don’t care, just keep the public displays down.
MoJo | Feb 04, 2010
Your analysis of the bible and Constantine fails. Quite poorly I’m afraid.
That aside, if I understand you, you have allowed another man to put his penis in your mouth. I don’t need the bible to tell me anything about that at all.
HTacianas | Feb 04, 2010
I’m not a Christian, but I just wanted to say how impressed I was by how informed you are and that I disagree with Christians (or anyone else for that matter) hating on LGBT. I think at least half of my acquaintances and friends are LGBT and I have no problem with it. That thing with Constantine is pretty messed up. I didn’t even know that part. I’ll have to look into it.
Autumn_Saoirse_Holmes | Feb 04, 2010
You say Genesis is a fable, although it contains prophecy of Christ? Someone lied to you greatly. You believe in Christ, you just don’t believe anything that His disciples, or anything the prophets wrote about Him? I’m at a loss for words.
This is a great example of Romans 1, and let that be a lesson. Romans 1 tells us that homosexuality is a result of suppressing the truth, for exchanging the truth of God for a lie, and.. well, you’re doing just that.
Homosexuality is a long and difficult road if you’re trying to battle it on your own, I know, I’ve been there. I too was once considered myself homosexual. However, things seem to change when you realize your need for a Savior, when Christ becomes first in your life. As 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 puts it, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
I’m not here to put you down in any way, just trying to bring realization to your eyes. Homosexuality is definitely a sin, in more than just one way. Sex outside of wedlock is sin, whether it be same sex or heterosexual. Even with that said, even if two men were to marry, it would still be a sin, because not only does Genesis state the blueprint for marriage being between one woman and one man, it is also reiterated by Christ: "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." — Matthew 19:4-6
Clint | Feb 04, 2010
galatians 6:7 do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
MrzBoopie | Feb 04, 2010
As a Christian I think they are evidently confused about what their body parts are for whether this is solely innate or brought about by life experiences it is (let’s not be politically correct) CLEARLY a mental defect, period! There is no reason to hate or be intolerant but there is also no reason to pretend that it’s normal or equally as desirable a trait with which to form a healthy enduring society. I think this is pretty basic and common sense.
By the way no ancient nor religious book describes the creation of the universe as accurately as Genesis and other old testament references, which refers to a transcendent Creator who existed before existence itself. Sciences unanimous theory regarding the beginning of the universe requires a causal agent of some sort they just won’t admit that the Bible beat them to it.
Broadbill | Feb 04, 2010
GOD has every right to outline the limits of human sexuality since He created it read Leviticus 18 carefully.
mjda1st | Feb 04, 2010
First of all the Bible is Gods letter to mankind, the fact that there is different interpretations does not change this fact. To do so would say that the most powerful being can’t communicate his thoughts to man.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11) What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God